ראובן כתב:
אני באמת חושב שהדיון הזה הוא עקר בלי שיבוא מישהו בר סמכא ויסביר מה החוקה אומרת ולמה בדיוק הכוונה. לאמריקאים סה"כ יש יחס מאוד מתמטי-פורמלי לחוקה.
מצאתי איזה פורום שיש בו דיון על הנושא.
מתוך מה שנכתב שם עולה שמותר לנגוע בכדור לפני שהוא נוגע בקרש ואז אין בעיה גם להצמיד אותו.
אני מביא כאן כמה ציטוטים מתוך הדיון
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=6851767it's goaltending if the defender hits the ball AFTER it has come off the backboard.
It's never goaltending if the defender makes contact with the ball (on a banked layup) before it hits the backboard.
Replays clearly show Lebron touching the ball when it was about 2" before it would have touched the backboard.
One of ESPN's shows had a replay of this with an ex-NBA ref looking at it in slo-mo. Clearly, crystal clear, it was not goaltending.Goaltending:
d. During a field goal attempt, touch a ball after it has touched any part of the backboard above ring level, whether the ball is considered on its upward or downward flight.
e. During a field goal attempt, touch a ball after it has touched the backboard below the ring level and while the ball is on its upward flight.
f. Trap the ball against the face of the backboard. (To be a trapped ball, three elements must exist simultaneously. The hand, the ball and the backboard must all occur at the same time. A batted ball against the backboard is not a trapped ball.)
NOTE the use of the word simultaneously.
Rule F was enacted to prevent the case of a "tie" on rule D. ie the ball touches the backboard AND at the exact same instant the defender makes contact with it.
Rule F clause "A batted ball against the backboard is not a trapped ball" is what applies to Lebrons block, since he made contact with the ball before it touched the backboard from Iggy shooting it.
It absolutely does not matter if Lebron temporarily had his hand against the ball against the backboard when he was swatting it as long as he touches the ball before it would have touched the backboard due to the motion from the shot attempt. The pinned ball rule was specifically designed to prevent an argument in case of a "tie"
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